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  • knethrea
    Edi - "As Sartree implied and Dostoyevski said it 'If there is no God everything is permissible'. And if one has God on their side then nothing is prohibited, including commanding militants to slaughter children. "if God sent his son Jesus to live and die (a terrible death) for the world???!!!! ...more
    Edi - "As Sartree implied and Dostoyevski said it 'If there is no God everything is permissible'.

    And if one has God on their side then nothing is prohibited, including commanding militants to slaughter children.

    "if God sent his son Jesus to live and die (a terrible death) for the world???!!!! Can this God be sadic if he sent Son to save those in sin??? No, God is good."

    Take your Jesus tinted Glasses off for five miserable minutes and read what you just said?!? Sent his son... a terrible death... Can this God be sadist? You answered your own question with the question. Yes, obviously He is a sadist. He couldn't figure out another way to "forgive" us than to have some poor man tortured to death? And if you don't think it's a good idea then you'll be tortured, yourself, for eternity?

    "God is the one who is above right and wrong and decides what is right and what is wrong."

    And Plato completely destroyed this idea three hundred years before your Christ.

    "Is the pious loved by the gods because it is pious? Or is it pious because it is loved by the gods?" - Plato

    Is there or is there not any objective morals? Well?

    If there are, then your God must follow them in order to be considered moral and cannot change them or they then become subjective to the whims of your God.

    If your God has power over objective morality and follows no objective moral code, then, by definition, there is NO objective moral good because your God can change them at whim. They are no longer only subjective to your God but completely arbitrary to the will of your God.

    If this is the case, then there is no objective morality. Get it?

    Worse, if there is an ontological moral law, written into the fabric of reality, an entity of itself, one of Plato's "forms", then your God by definition cannot exist for he would have no power over them, because like I said, if he did change them, then they would be destroyed, the would not be objective, but subjective. In other words, you can't have your cake and eat it. There either is an objective moral law that your God is powerless to change or your God is all powerful and there is no objective moral law.

    Unless your a relativist. Which seems to be the trend amongst Christians zealots whenever I bring up the atrocities your Lord commits. So ready to embrace what you despise when defending your God; Moral relativism.
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  • Liandro
    Asterix - This story could've been titled as - Methinks he (she) doth protest too much or Much Ado About Nothing - Satanism or How I learned to stop fearing and just eat the wafer. Whichever or whatever, the trailer for the movie based on this definitely needs to start out the narration with "In a world..."
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  • diandjohn
    Eleazar Ben Yair - Yeah, it must be wonderful to be a film star to get recognition.. This report forgot to mention the following:- Joe Soap, Billy Evans, Harry Jones, Megan Thomas, Sally Williams, John Richards, Dave Whittle, Tony Begejah, Harold Richardson, Scott Wheeler, Kevin Baily, June & ...more
    Eleazar Ben Yair - Yeah, it must be wonderful to be a film star to get recognition.. This report forgot to mention the following:- Joe Soap, Billy Evans, Harry Jones, Megan Thomas, Sally Williams, John Richards, Dave Whittle, Tony Begejah, Harold Richardson, Scott Wheeler, Kevin Baily, June & Julie Cann, Roger & Anne Simons, Tony Tesco, Shelly B. Rosa, Nancy Farmer, Julie Jones, Steve Marson, Colin Angel, Philip Pope, Kenny Gooding, Mike Thomas, Jean Lloyd, Tommy Parsons, Ian Baily, Thomas Harding, Alison Pritchard, Shirley Gilley, Peter Jones, Walter Wilson, Dorothy Clements, Sarah Ward,
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  • BornAgainChristian1
    ApostolicSee - Actually what I know is that the atheists are wrong and the Judge is wrong because the 1st amendment says the government can't make any laws preventing inalienable rights.
  • 7 minutes ago
  • BornAgainChristian1
    Gabriel7 - Let me ask you an honest question do you believe lying is sin? Remember God said thou shalt no bear false witness because our resident atheist EmpiricalPierce seems to believe you condone lying to protect oneself and/or others.
  • 13 minutes ago
  • BornAgainChristian1
    EmpiricalPierce - Why don't you just embarrass yourself even farther and ask Gabriel7 if he believes lying is acceptable and if he still honors the commandment that states thou shalt not bear false witness. BTW just because you think another Christian compromised doesn't make it true or acceptable under what God hath said.A biblical Christian won't compromise God's word but an atheists will do what ever ever it takes to save yourself from harm.
  • 17 minutes ago
  • diandjohn
    Pianogal4Him - Whilst I agree with much of what you posted, I must say this is not simply rumored as you presume; it is reported.. There's more than one method of enacting this 'Ice Bucket' challenge, and some will want to go a step further than another person partaking in the event. But it's all ...more
    Pianogal4Him - Whilst I agree with much of what you posted, I must say this is not simply rumored as you presume; it is reported.. There's more than one method of enacting this 'Ice Bucket' challenge, and some will want to go a step further than another person partaking in the event. But it's all tagged with the same title, for the same purpose.. There is no difference.. Yes, I agree, people especially youngsters will do anything that's different 'Just to be cool' .. People are taking chips in their bodies 'Just to be cool' .. They have little discernment of the dangers attached to what they do, and no thought for their own safety.
    • 'Ice Bucket Challenge:' 5 Reasons Some Say Beware
    • While many have brought greater awareness of and research support for ALS, or "Lou Gehrig's Disease," in a fun way with the "Ice Bucket Challenge," others have raised concerns about whether, or how, to participate. Here are five of the concerns some have raised.
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  • Tobias Grace
    BornAgainChristian1 - Oh - so we gays can't take confrontation, huh? You obviously know nothing of the history of gay liberation. Starting with the Stonewall Rebellion, the early liberation marches confronting police depts. that just wanted to kill us, the ACT UP demos that focused attention on AIDS, the Pink Panthers - I could go on. We've been confronting consistently for a long time. Obviously you haven't been paying attention
  • 34 minutes ago
  • Asterix
    Stop the press! A CP contributor does not like the way Sam Harriss used the word Spirituality !!! This is so surprizing! Lol.
    • Waking Up: Is Atheist Sam Harris Lying to Sell Books?
    • Author Sam Harris, credited with launching the new atheist movement with his provocative book The End of Faith, is now striving to fill the immeasurable spiritual void left from abandoning religion with a new "Spiritual" book.
  • 36 minutes ago
  • diandjohn
    dutch1 - Yep, I know.. The world will always be against Christians while the world is against God.. They hate God, and so they must hate those who believe in God.. it follows. The point I am making is to expose the lies of the American Motto ..'IN GOD WE TRUST'.. Are you with me now? .. It is this ...more
    dutch1 - Yep, I know.. The world will always be against Christians while the world is against God.. They hate God, and so they must hate those who believe in God.. it follows. The point I am making is to expose the lies of the American Motto ..'IN GOD WE TRUST'.. Are you with me now? .. It is this deception that stems from Government Officials including JUDGES, leaders of authority within the judicial system that place their hand on heart, boastfully singing 'God Bless America' when God is NOT blessing America at all because of the sham, scam and farce of that motto. America does NOT put their trust in God, they are deceivers.. Are you still with me? .. If this was true, they would adhere to the word of God..BUT THEY NEVER DO ... DO THEY?
    • Your First Calling Is to Trust God
    • If you have been given a particular calling and ministry from the Lord, I hope it burns within your soul and provides you with much passion for service everyday. That tends to be the way it plays out for a Spirit-led and Spirit-filled believer who is called and gifted to serve in God's kingdom. But ...
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  • Asterix
    "I am relieved that we have been able to secure the return of the sacred host". I am glad no efforts were spared to save it. The Catholic church really has its priorities right. Actually they crack me right up. Lol. These virgins (?) live in a parallel universe. One person thinking that way is crazy, ten is a cult, a million is a religion.
  • 42 minutes ago
  • Edi
    knethrea - The fear of the Lord is the beginning of the Wisdom. It implies that if you don't revere God and mock or insult him real wisdom (that you praise so much in your profile) is lacking in you. God and man don't have democracy between them. They don't decide among them what is good and ...more
    knethrea - The fear of the Lord is the beginning of the Wisdom. It implies that if you don't revere God and mock or insult him real wisdom (that you praise so much in your profile) is lacking in you.



    God and man don't have democracy between them. They don't decide among them what is good and what is bad. Man is part of the creation and has to follow the direction of the Creator. Those are the guidelines and he can't decide on his own, because if anyone is left to make their owns chaos will result.



    As Sartree implied and Dostoyevski said it "If there is no God everything is permissible". If there is no God it is chaos. You say killing is wrong, for example, another one says it is ok as the fittest will survive. Which one is right? Why your moral is better than the other moral? You might say that those who hold my point of view are more and so my moral is better. So moral becomes a question of majorities? But majorities have so many time in history failed ... take Germany and Hitler as fact.



    As in a court a judge decided on two parties, God is the one who is above right and wrong and decides what is right and what is wrong. And you may know that God has this attributes of being right and loving. In his rightness He can wipe us all out because of sin. In his love and mercy he send Jesus to save us.



    How can you call God (since you use the Bible for your claims, don't you) killer, bloodthirsty and everything if God sent his son Jesus to live and die (a terrible death) for the world???!!!! Can this God be sadic if he sent Son to save those in sin??? No, God is good.



    And if you read the Bible, you should interpreted as a whole, in view of the plan of salvation and of eternal life. Regards.
  • 60 minutes ago
  • Tom de Jongh
    This page... guys.. it's spammed with ads. There are animated ads with sound which keep reloading, so you can't just read the text, but have to turn off your speakers. Never seen so many ads on one page. This author is just saying pro-voking stuff. All he says is: I don't agree with Sam Harris' use ...more
    This page... guys.. it's spammed with ads. There are animated ads with sound which keep reloading, so you can't just read the text, but have to turn off your speakers. Never seen so many ads on one page. This author is just saying pro-voking stuff. All he says is: I don't agree with Sam Harris' use of the word Spiritual and he does so in two full pages of text, which could have just been that one sentence. If I could flag, or block, or report this website I would! I'm never coming back here again. christianpost com is on the blacklist
    • Waking Up: Is Atheist Sam Harris Lying to Sell Books?
    • Author Sam Harris, credited with launching the new atheist movement with his provocative book The End of Faith, is now striving to fill the immeasurable spiritual void left from abandoning religion with a new "Spiritual" book.
  • 1 hour ago
  • Harley
    Harley - be saved. That includes the Jews. I don't believe non-repentant Jews will be in Heaven.
    • Israel: As Seen Through the Eyes of an American Millennial
    • "Zionist" is not a term I would use to describe myself, at least, not before last Tuesday. As I found myself huddled and shaking in a bomb shelter along the Israel/Gaza Strip border as missiles fired overhead, my perspective started to change.
  • 2 hours ago
  • SouthernBaptistsDyingOut
    Reformed Baptist - Yep, the vast majority of young people today think Baptists are demented. Don't keep up with media outside your box, do you? You must be so proud to belong to the lunatic fringe in the USA.
    • An Open Letter to the 'False Church'
    • To be sure, the guidepost for that which makes up the false church is not rooted in my opinion. I'm a fallen sinner, saved by grace and worthy, by my own merit, of nothing more than the lake of fire. The guidepost for that which constitutes the false church is the Word of God.
  • 2 hours ago
  • Harley
    TheKnowerseeker - Example: Let's say you have a horse thief, a murderer, an atheist, or a pedophile in your family history. That must mean you and all your descendants are condemned for all of history to pay for the sins of your ancestors? The Bible says God is long-suffering. It also says only ...more
    TheKnowerseeker - Example: Let's say you have a horse thief, a murderer, an atheist, or a pedophile in your family history. That must mean you and all your descendants are condemned for all of history to pay for the sins of your ancestors?

    The Bible says God is long-suffering. It also says only those who accept Jesus Christ as the sovereign Lord of their life and walk in the Way will enter heaven. With regard to the question you and I are discussing I believe that God is patiently (i.e., longsuffering) waiting for the Gospel to be taken to all the nations and all offered a chance to repent and be saf
    • Israel: As Seen Through the Eyes of an American Millennial
    • "Zionist" is not a term I would use to describe myself, at least, not before last Tuesday. As I found myself huddled and shaking in a bomb shelter along the Israel/Gaza Strip border as missiles fired overhead, my perspective started to change.
  • 2 hours ago
  • Harley
    ApostolicSee - Your simplistic ignorance of history is astounding. Why don't you compare and contrast the plight of women in the first century, compared to what Christianity offered them. Then, in your self-important, pompus and wrong-headed criticism of all things Christian you should illuminate ...more
    ApostolicSee - Your simplistic ignorance of history is astounding. Why don't you compare and contrast the plight of women in the first century, compared to what Christianity offered them. Then, in your self-important, pompus and wrong-headed criticism of all things Christian you should illuminate the voting status of women and slavery status worldwide, compared to that in the United States. Then, as a grand finale for your most excellent exercise of drivel and misguided retro view of history you should then pontificate and wrap up your pseudo-professorial commentary on the sweep of history with your own blather about how Christ is such a bad influence on America. You really need to wake up, AS. You can't be a bitter, pathetic dreg all your life.
  • 2 hours ago